They could be Mike Tyson leaving the prison gates, Tiger Woods after his divorce.
Sure, the New England Patriots still have an invincible vibe. But as we know the Patriots, are they already extinct?
Boston is ablaze with theories about the futures of Tom Brady and Rob Gronkowski, about a supposed rift between the players and coach Bill Belichick, about the fallout from the Jimmy Garoppolo trade.
We got after the topic and what it might mean for the Buffalo Bills on the "Tim Graham Show." The discussion got heated among Buffalo News senior columnist Jerry Sullivan, Mike Rodak of ESPN.com and me. Rodak sure does love his Patriots.
We also spoke with NBC Sports Boston columnist Tom Curran about his recent look into the Patriots mess and heard wrestling legend Ric Flair's thoughts on football players such as Gronkowski flipping into his world.
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